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Mexican Bull edition

> Current and upcoming races
09.05 - 01.06 Giro d'Italia 2.UWT
22.05 - 25.05 Vuelta a Burgos Feminas 2.WWT
23.05 - 25.05 Grande Prémio Internacional Beiras e Serra da Estrela 2.1
26.05 Mercan'Tour Classic Alpes-Maritimes 1.1
29.05 - 01.06 Boucles de la Mayenne - Crédit Mutuel 2.Pro
29.05 - 01.06 Tour of Norway 2.Pro
30.05 - 31.05 Tour of Estonia 2.1
31.05 - 01.06 Tour of Norway Women 2.1 WE
04.06 - 08.06 Tour of Slovenia 2.Pro
05.06 - 08.06 Lloyds Tour of Britain Women 2.WWT
06.06 - 08.06 Volta Ciclista a Catalunya Femenina 2.1 WE
07.06 Heylen Vastgoed Heistse Pijl 1.1
07.06 Antwerp Port Epic Ladies 1.Pro WE
08.06 Brussels Cycling Classic 1.Pro ME
08.06 - 15.06 Critérium du Dauphiné 2.UWT
09.06 GP Mazda Schelkens 1.1 WE
09.06 Antwerp Port Epic / Sels Trophy 1.1
12.06 - 15.06 Tour de Suisse Women 2.WWT
13.06 Grosser Preis des Kantons Aargau 1.1
13.06 - 15.06 Tour Féminin International des Pyrénées 2.1 WE
14.06 Duracell Dwars door het Hageland 1.Pro
14.06 Elmos Dwars door het Hageland 1.1 WE
15.06 - 22.06 Tour de Suisse 2.UWT
15.06 Elfstedenronde Brugge 1.1
18.06 - 21.06 La Route d'Occitanie - CIC 2.1
18.06 - 22.06 Baloise Belgium Tour 2.Pro
21.06 Copenhagen Sprint 1.WWT
22.06 Copenhagen Sprint 1.UWT
22.06 Andorra MoraBanc Clàssica 1.1
24.06 Giro dell'Appennino 1.1
03.07 - 06.07 Sibiu Cycling Tour 2.1
05.07 - 27.07 Tour de France 2.UWT

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> Results already from the 8th of June
https://www.procyclingstats.com/national-race/marke/2025/result
They are getting ever so bolder with the lies







 >>/12077/
juicing the palmares of young femmes in exchange for sexual favours. who will realize if a few WU results have some inconsistencies? no one will know. sick bastard.




We live in Alpes Maritine btw (god I wish)
https://france3-regions.franceinfo.fr/provence-alpes-cote-d-azur/alpes-maritimes/direct-mercan-tour-classic-alpes-maritimes-2025-suivez-la-course-entre-puget-theniers-et-valberg-3157929.html










LATEST MVDF NEWS (wielerflits gossip): he may or may not have broken his hand. DEVASTATING news for his upcoming golf and fortnite tournaments


































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I want to see full on BETRAYAL this week.  Ayuso  attacking Del Toro. Loud  squeaking in Mexican fistfights,  dopage. The entire package. 
It's the third week....we've been eagerly waiting for this. Surely we won't be left disappointed.


























GREAT result for Cofidis in a field against Janneke and Mieke. 60 points. They have no chance against Picnic PostNL. Who would have thought the relegation battle would already have been over in May. Arkea and Cofidis OUT







> 

You heard it here first: Wout van Aert SMASHES both stage 18 AND 21 brining his wins up to three and putting the haters on notice that he’s still got it. Expect even more dominance in the TdF later on!
















 >>/12161/
Yeah, I went for a quick btfo from me mom's before it starts pouring today and got caught in a full blast shower from the sky, wetout.
I already can feel the sniffles coming, eyes warm, random muscles warm, back a little more sore from today's sesh.
It is not even age, this was always my greatest nemesis, sudden cool down.


















 >>/12190/
I remember they fucked Ganna in some february race in 2023 or 24 for exactly what that guy up there did but most of the time they just slip through
gotta love uci randomness arbitrariness. Thats a word

Q. SIMMONS and future tdf inner andrew joseph AUGUST bridged to the cabeza of literal whos, ef devo chasing furiously behind, assumably for team leader C. SIMMONS




this coverage truly is terrible; no time gaps, only two motos and no overhead, and they cant even get the camera colour balance right. USAC delenda est


 >>/12198/
German NC two years ago was even more of a shitfest. No time gaps, no distance left, commentators didn't know what was happening up front and at some point they just lost connection to the motos for 20 minutes or more and two runners (lennergy I think) just vanished from the front. They were dropped from the front but not in G2 and nowhere to be seen between G1 and G2. Eventually they just turned up again, what a joke















 >>/12208/
he's calmed down a bit, there's an interview from november where he says he'd like to be on the tour squad though but to help
after their owner called him one of the worst deals ever he kinda shut up






young henry NEFF surprising everyone, being the best of the rest and even hard pulling the group as the other shitters drop. some pcs snooping shows he is the former winner of the legendary TOUR DE DMZ in korea, even besting runners like BORREMANS and TARLING













 >>/12232/
dos laps to go:
> Q. SIMMONS
> NEFF, KWABUST +0:20
> STITES, BOYLE +0:30
> grupo SCHMIDT +0:45
it may be over. main group is fighting for the minor places it seems.







 >>/12239/
> AUGUST and SCHMIDT gigafrauds, didnt even make the second group
If they can't make group 2 in a field of amateurs then they might as well retire early. Chud Simmons should win this easily.



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look at this impressive race schedule for the soon-to-be runner up of US mens elite nationals. surely an elite cycling nation like the USA would be able to attract its native superstars to national championships instead of u23's trying to get conti contracts




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roglic currently depleting his blood bag reserve, peloton beware. when he said 'no risk no glory' the risk was WADA and the glory was higher haematocrit

https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/international-azerbaijan-tour/2025/startlist

Where is Team Universe. The Modesty Police in Iran is FINALLY going after you-know-who? About FUCKING time


Oh and this shit is 2.1. Same as Tour de l'Ain, Poitou-Charentes, Occitanie and all that shit. Why is Cofidis not going here for a billion points. They can get 1-2-3-4-5-6 here
> inb4 they get dropped by Ali LABIB SHOTABAN















 >>/12265/
Yes well, I will have these random revelations about absolutely obvious stuff.
I think I was near 30 when it dawned on me that a main street named after a nearby town will be the street that leads towards that town.
I am now forgetting most of them because of huge auto-embarassement.

It dawned on me now that chevalier comes from cheval. And I know the word cheval since like 20 years. At least 10 since I learned cavallo.
And Polish kawaleria (general name for a horseback unit) derives from these, the same as kawaler, a member of kawaleria but also an unmarried man (me, and most of us but Norbert, Bertele, Suissebert, Patjebert, at least one of the Burgerberts).






















our local french commentator during a discussion about the most disappointing rider in the Giro: "I can't say I'm disappointed in Gaudu because I never exepected anything from him in the first place"


























we've heard of tv breakaways but what about tv chutes? surely a chute comicale attracts more attention to the sponsors then just another suicide break. we could have tv chute specialists, like pro wrestlers trying to chute in the most emphatic ways while not maintaining any [serious] injuries






These riders were involved in a crash
> Carapaz Richard (EF Education - EasyPost)
>  Roglič Primož (Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe)
so it happened AGAIN












 >>/12333/
if pog and jonas definitively kill his remaining sliver of tdf hopes he probably parks it. as he should. he really does deserve a tdf [at least more then the teamsky frauds]


> Roglič Primož (Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe) has 5 DNFs in 16 grand tour starts
they don't tell you that stat when you bet 5k on rog every time his odds look as juicy as the startlist looks weak
































Back from running

> check PCS

> Roglic Chute

Bwahahahaha
Tramadol rider
Anyways, this is the final nail, he confirms he is not in contention for GT wins anymore.






> bora pulling
but why? Pellizari and DNF have to gain a lot of time to get one of them back into the top 10 as new Bora leaders.




RB should check their cycling department, it's all going downhills.

Fucking KWABs.
If they cannot get Remco/Ayuso RB should just pull the plug in this project.

 >>/12381/
Austrian Monster Energy Drink copy has patience and does such projects long term. but yeah, after this horrible first half of the season with only Catalyuna to show off, they need to go back to the drawing board.






According to Giada Borgato Jay Vine is back in the peloton after extensive slurping of the latter
Will we see some non consensual pulling finally?





 >>/12388/
why would they put el toro's bidon hauler on the front? the competitors they needed to chute have already retired, better to follow the wheel of someone whose line can be trusted

another successful ride from GAUDU, fulfilling his duty as GERMANI's bottlebitch and then hard dropping. truly the activities of an elite GC contender

















































































































































































Mmmm anudda of my great adjustments this year, CARAPAZ out, LANDA in.
Oh well, most people are dead, congrats to the goomblers, I have already discussed this extensively meself.  >>/5073/















 >>/12586/
> those two stages were probably better than the last three Giri combined
Bora vs Ineos in 2022 was a good edition. 2023 was shit overall but the mountain ITT was a very good stage.


 >>/12586/
if it just a single stage highlight monte-lussari is probably up there. obviously that giro had so many stinkers but thats how it goes. if this third week is good this will be looked back on as an absolutely pristine giro. at least until the retroactive testing is done a decade later

 >>/12587/
2022 was "le waiting for the 3rd week" meme slurpage to the max. Only good stage was the Torino one. That edition was ultimately also the downfall of my boy Superman Lopez, which makes it even worse.



 >>/12589/
Depending on what happens these next few stages, this Giro could end up as the 2011 Tour. A dreadful first two weeks followed by pure kino in the last week that makes everyone forget how bad the first part of the race was. Although now that I think about it, the 2011 Tour was even worse than this Giro in the first two weeks.
































Seems like I missed one hell of a stage.
Was grande PELLIZZARI really the fastest from the GC group or did he go solo early? I need to find me a replay













> SIMON YATES highest stage finish: 5th
very possible he never finishes higher on a stage and manages to win GC given enough fraudulence. grim





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Well today has been a very, very interesting day of racing. But it was a complete disaster for my Veloteam. So we have a very fine bottle to celebrate the beauty and the tragedy of ciclismo through our continued journey on /WORLD TOUR WINE/.

Today's selection is very interesting, one of the really unique bottles of the year that I would probably never buy aside from this little /WTW/ experiment. Amarone della Valpolicella is grown in the hills above Verona, just south of today's stage finish.

This wine has a very interesting background. This is a red blend of a couple obscure local grapes (80% Corvina Veronese, 20% Rondinella), but the uniqueness comes from the process. After picking, the grapes are left to dry in lofts for months where they lose at least 40% of their moisture, turning to soft raisins. These raisins are then vinified with a slow, cold fermentation for roughly two months. The wine is then aged in old French oak for at least two years (seven in this wine's case) before bottling.

BERTani Amarone della Valpolicella Classico 2012 ($160)

Decanted for three hours so far at tasting. This pours a light ruby/garnet, almost a middle-aged Pinot Noir appearance, but the viscosity is high with thick, long legs. The nose has been slowly blossoming and building since opening bottle. It was initially muted and flat - I was worried I caught bottle in a dumb phase. Now, there is incredible density of golden currant, fig, and molasses. It is such an onslaught of rich secondary sweet notes. The palate then lifts, with lovely acidity and ripe cherry wrapped around all those rich sweet raisinated flavors. The tannins are just pure chocolate (semi-sweet).

Wow, wow, wow. So interesting. It is not quite profound, but it is amazing. So complex, such depth. It is rich and lithe at the same time. Really a special bottle.

Cheers and RIP to my Veloteam.




 >>/12647/
For /WTW/, I think I've had three bottles so far in ~$160 range (this, Castello Romitorio Brunello di Montalcino [Strade Bianche], Mas de Boislauzon Chateauneuf du Pape Tinot [Paris-Nice]).

Most expensive bottles I've ever had are probably $4-5k, but I don't buy anything that expensive myself, just taste from friends/at events.










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 >>/12653/
Nothing really justifies that price tag. Above a certain price point, you're just paying for how sought after the wine is (small production, hype, etc) rather than quality. 

That being said, I have had some four-figure wines that were religious experiences and some four-figure wines that I was like "huh, that's it?".

The best wine is something high quality, served with the best food, with the best people around you, in the best place.



 >>/12659/
I have the same feeling with whisky, I never bought a bottle more expensive than a hundred euro but I have had quite a few of those, the jump between 50 and a 100 can be barely noticeable.
I'd imagine it would be the same between a 100 and a 1000 eurobux.




Just watching the stage while enjoying my vin.

Jesus Christ, Carapaz is such a beast in the high mountains. Love watching that little dude grind his way up a steep mountain after a horrific stage.










 >>/12673/
 >>/12671/
He's simply a very good rider. Besides when he gets fucked by a crash, he almost always gets either a decent GC result or stage wins in a GT.

I'd argue that he has the best race instincts out of all GT GC riders.







 >>/12676/
> I'd argue that he has the best race instincts out of all GT GC riders.
I feel like we've seen him blow up many times after making an attack. He's an aggressive rider. Sometimes it works out sometimes it doesn't.


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 >>/12679/
> fairly normale everything considered
> 406 W for 45 minutes
> After 190km
> Mostly in the rain
> In the third week of a Grand Tour
I literally cannot think of any athletes in the world tougher than WT GC riders








people are already forgetting this is a papal giro. here's the relevant information:
> CARAPAZ: catholic
> DEL TORO: catholic
> CARUSO: catholic
> GEE: anglican
> PELIZZARI: catholic
> YATES: sunni muslim
its obvious who are pre-ordained to fall. adjust accordingly







Speaking of shitcock

> Although things have calmed down as the weeks have gone by, Pidcock's latest statements to Marca may stir up the henhouse once again. The Q36.5 star has left his participation in the Vuelta a España very much in doubt: "I don't think I am. The idea was to come to the Giro, prepare for the Ardennes and extend the season a bit longer. I feel tired because I've been racing since January," Tom Pidcock confesses. This could potentially lead to a large amount of criticism if it comes to be by the time we reach August. 

Kern pharma died for this cunt

 >>/12702/
> messing up with aso
Shoudlnt come out surprising but this is not a very smart move. Dude handled his career pretty badly overall. Got lucky covid gifted him one extra Olympic but that's it


 >>/12702/
> The idea was to come to the Giro, prepare for the Ardennes and extend the season a bit longer
Was this translated poorly or something because it makes no sense to me. Either way he can't seriously say he will end his road season on the 1st of June lol what does he think he's getting paid for?




Axs battery died in the middle of bumfuck nowhere after 3h of gravel riding. I limped 5km to a nearby village and am now sitting in a cafe waiting for a taxi. Too bad the battery died when I had 42-36, no chance to ride 40km home with that granny gear lol.
Next time I'll surely bring a spare battery just in case.







 >>/12715/
Yeah that place is a tourist hellhole go north everything starting from Framura and upwards is safe from americans and doesn’t charge 15 euros for a piece of bread




 >>/12718/
> Tourists can now be fined for “lingering” to take selfies while visiting Portofino, Italy. The new €275 fine is being implemented across two Instagram-famous areas within the popular Italian fishing village, which are now marked as red zones or “no waiting” areas.
also G*rman tourists were fined for making coffee on the Rialto bridge. sitting and eating on the Spanish stairs in Rome is verboten as well, but the last time I was there no police (they are all at the trevi fountain, making sure nobody swims in there) was around while tourists were enjoying a gelato there.

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 >>/12719/
It is not my normal type of holiday, usually I like to go the desert in Turkmenistan or Mongolia and be basically alone. But for a change it is quite nice. I have a lot of train moneys now too so whatever, I'll pay 10 eurodollars for your focaccia



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 >>/12722/
It is good sometimes to be in society, especially if you don't care too much.
I haven't been on any true vacation trips since my teens, I was pondering the most plebean, almost vile, all-inclusive vaycay in some hotel where I would be just searing in sun and then temper in the pool.
Some walkarounds through whatever town I am at in between.

I hope the focaccia and whatever else is good at least and they're not charging the tourist tax for food truck level of slop. 
I remember being disappointed as a teenager with pizza in Riccione.


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 >>/12725/
>  I was pondering the most plebean, almost vile, all-inclusive vaycay in some hotel where I would be just searing in sun and then temper in the pool.

I used to do this a lot in september, book some last minute super cheap all in for the next week and go do nothing after a long summer of wage slaving. No planning etc.
Now I have more free time in the summer do plan actual interesting trips but those were some good resets















 >>/12726/
It was a bit tougher than I expected to Vernazza, the path goes up and down and stuff. Wtf is this, we don't have that SHIT at home. I saw a lot of Am*ricans in the beginning, but halfway nobody anymore. They must have all died or turned back. I saw a guy with some pregnant chick and two small children. They were already completely FUCKED and going at snail's pace. This was about 20 minutes in. If those idiots didn't turn around I am 100% sure they are already dead.




























































































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Kinda crazy how the riders who were arguably the top 4 candidates for the win before the race, Roglic, Ayuso, Landa and Tiberi, will end up being complete non-factors in the race.





 >>/12977/
> Where Bernal's reaction tends towards a press talk, Tiberi is simply honest at Cycling Pro Net. He lost no less than seven positions in the rankings and is now in position 15, after he was reported in difficulty early on the Mortirolo.

> A crash during Saturday's stage appears to be the culprit. "I already felt very bad this morning, with a lot of pain on my left side", says Tiberi. "After the crash, my muscles were badly affected, but this morning it got even worse after yesterday's efforts."

> "On the first climb I was still able to survive in the peloton, but on the Mortirolo I could not pedal more than 550 watts. The pain was very bad. I pushed my body to the limit and that did not do my condition any good."







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Almost alone in my train wagon except for some ehh interesting looking fellas. One has tattoos all over his face, among them a teardrop next to his eye and a knife behind his ear. They are standing in the isle instead of sitting down for some reason



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When did Ali bike parts become so expensive? Wheelsets were an absolute bargain, nowadays I can mostly just buy the Western brands counterparts on sale and don't have to hassle with Chinese shipping and returns. Looks similar for frames. What a shame.



 >>/12988/
Not sure what you mean when I put together my china bike I only paid 1/3 of what a western brand bike would've cost altogether, frame only cost around 1/6th of a comparable western frame and the wheelset was around 1/4th. However I bought both of those on the chinese brands website directly




 >>/12993/
Really? Aren't the only decent zipp wheels well over 2k €? The low tier zipp wheels are all pretty heavy and narrow from what I know and they are all hookless deathtraps aren't they. Anyhow yeah winspace is crap, always has been. Just heavily marked up stuff engineered by others.
I bought a set of 50mm wheels from xmcarbonspeed for around 800€ all in all with some discount and that wheelset weights 1150g which is like 200g+ lighter than whatever the best zipps were and they are also wider, 34mm external. I recommend checking that company out they make top tier quality












 >>/13003/
cheers, there's a fairly active forum dedicated to chinese frames/wheels/anything called chinertown .com that I can recommend checking out. There are threads for just about any and all chinese brands, people buy and test anything they can get their hands on so you get a very good insight on good deals and whats reliable and good quality and who sells dirt.

you cheap bastards wanna paypig but can't be arsed to support local business ?
buy a custom frame made in you are own country ffs!


























> Team manager Richard Plugge doesn't mince his words in the latest WielerFlits Podcast and former rider Nathan Van Hooydonck underlines that. When both riders are in top form, Plugge's Danish leader is the better of the two. "Due to circumstances, Jonas was simply less in the final week last year. I do think that UAE Emirates XRG has made progress after the time trial to Combloux in the 2023 Tour. But so have we. And we are mainly looking at ourselves, how we can improve our performance. Compared to last year, we have made another big step in that regard."

My god what did they do to him


tour of norway startlist is meh. you can watch how the young LAB rats around Brennan and Nordhagen are doing and Christen is back for UAE.


 >>/13035/
> And in our view, Jonas is better at that, to be able to handle that accumulation of fatigue etc
A bit bold saying this about a guy that just won 2GT + 2 monuments + WC the same season







 >>/13045/
I never understood this, I can look at 90% of the profiles and tell you where they will most likely attack 
> yes jonas you must attack on the climb about 3 km from the top


 >>/13045/
 >>/13046/
its just to hook investors isn't it, like tech companies do
> hurr durr we use AI in our products look we're cutting edge please invest 
imo everything the LABrats say and do is just to get some media traction so plugge can get more money out of their paypigs 
> the control room
> the bit where they follow pog to gather data before they blow up
> all those weird ass social media posts from training camp where they wear gillets and no jersey like wtf
















 >>/13059/
The combination of crumbling mountain rocks accumulating on a glacier and then the glacier sliding into the valley becuase of all the additional weight of the rocks on top of it is really a freak occurance.
The houses that survived are now getting flooded because the rocks created a barrage.
















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