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Vance visited the Hungary, arrived yesterday. White House has two videos on their yt channel:
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1mkWhHLxJmA
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1mkWhHLxJmA
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=F53sdPTvPBE
https://youtube.com/watch?v=F53sdPTvPBE
Listening them now, so the only thing: Vance today been at some gathering a held the MTK stadium. MTK is a sport club, notable for their football team, one of the old traditional clubs. A traditional Jewish club.
Tomorrow election day. The campaign still rumbling on. Today's scandal: some musicians (rappers?) during performance said that the Fidesz can suck his dick.
How horrible, every talking head is deeply indignant.

The Szájer isn't even the Fidesz anymore tho. Really makes you think.
Voting started at 7:00 Felcsút Time. By 8:00 ~3,5% of the voters were done.

 >>/55265/
No, he has no such tools.
I think they did what they were able to stack the deck, but the result of this election is still questionable - at least for outside spectators such as voters and me.
But for Orbán and Co. it is good to have an opposition which at least seems competitive. They can deny the allegations of dictatorship and can claim legitimate democratic basis for their authority (the will of the people in free elections).
Checking, by this time only 40% voted. The turnover could be greater than ever. Highest one was 70,5% in 2002, the last two in 2018 and 2022 was almost 70%.
I wonder if they could pump voters to 75%.
Now Magyar Péter talks.
Says historical day, 20 years after the referendum about joining the EU. Notes the turnout record. Hungarians felt how important this election is. This is the celebration of democracy. He asks patience from everyone for now. And thanks the all volunteers who helped all over the country - this is an authoritarian non-working country so they needed. The got reports of many thousands election frauds, and these will be examined and the criminals will go to jail.
Uhh. I phased out halfway in, perhaps I'll listen tomorrow again
Now Torockai of the Mi Hazánk party talks.
He said the they are the only group that wasn't washed away by the Tisza (it's the name of the river too), since they kept what they had, while the Fidesz lost bigly. He congratulated to the Facebook and the globalists in the Silicon Valley standing behind the Tisza. He expects the democracy degrading further. Eventually the Mi Hazánk will defeat the Tisza eventually.
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Until then, an interesting sidenote.
From all the pollsters only one calculated accurately. The Medián came to the conclusion that the Tisza will win with 2/3. All the rest said either party will win with some majority but nowhere was close to this. They also predicted well that the Mi Hazánk will gain mandates, but no other parties - except they expected one ethnic Gypsy candidate to get in.
What I think is that they weren't accurate. They were the ones who got lucky. I listened an interview today with the owner/director of this particular pollster and they asked how they measured it, and there was nothing particularly different in the explanation. The dude sounded genuinely surprised too and embarrassed that he can't give an explanation for their bullseye.
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Promised something beefy. Let's start and see where it goes.

Summary of the election in numbers - minor changes are expected, perhaps when I post this, the numbers will be incorrect already, but still close enough.
Extraordinary turnout, clocked 79,55%.
For now it seems Tisza gains 136, the Fidesz 57, and the Mi Hazánk 6 seats in the Parliament.
Really interesting how these mandates are distributed. From party lists they got 44 - 43 - 6, but the major difference comes from the constituencies, where they elect candidates on the basis of simple plurality. So the candidate with the highest amount of votes wins. And the Tisza could reap 92 seats from all over the country.
The election system the Fidesz created heavily favors the winner. A very slim win can result in a stable majority, and a confident win in a supermajority (2/3). In previous elections this favored the Fidesz, on Sunday it caused them to lose bigly. But shouldn't overestimate the Tisza's overwhelming majority in seats, they got support from the 52% and change of the voters. Some celebrate how all the Hungarians finally woke up, this is a bit of a stretch, that 2.3 million Fidesz voter would had been enough in the circumstances of previous elections, so we can't ignore them.
What I wrote here:  >>/55193/ still stands.

One note: in EU countries the winners of elections have hard time forming governments in recent years, and then they create weak coalitions that crack easily. Probably their electoral system can be blamed. So if one considers strong, stable governments a good thing, then the Hungarian one delivers.
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Why could Tisza win? And why they could this big?
I did not expected this result, I literally told everyone the Fidesz will win.
The Tisza is a catch-all party that collected the voters of the leftlib after all their parties imploded - and those conservatives who got enough of the Fidesz. But not just the voters, but all the backers of the leftlib parties stood behind it too, those who push the money, their media, their experts. I thought people still so indignant about the leftliberals that they don't want to see them back. I think I miscalculated how they managed to hide in plain sight.
Everyone knows here that the Fidesz became this oligarch embezzling mafia, corrupt and fat, like its leader. But in previous elections the choice was them or those other corrupt, lazy, and talentless hack socialists and liberals. But by today all the old faces and names disappeared. Now it was the choice between the corrupt Fidesz and what the majority percieved as a breath of fresh air.
I do not believe that the campaign program of the Tisza mattered much. Basically they promised that they do better what the Fidesz was doing already, and they will do some more things that the Fidesz is not doing, and that they'll maintain good relations with EU and NATO unlike the Fidesz. So basically they had a populist program that promised everyone everything.
The high turnout was another component. The Fidesz got lotsa votes, but the Tisza got even more. Those who were mobilized all went to remove them.
"Electoral fatigue" perhaps is the keyword, I listened the latest podcast Michael Rossi participated in and this was the term he used. Basically people wanted a different populist from the populists they were tired of.

About the large number of votes that normally could have guaranteed a slim victory.
Despite the country seems to go nowhere, stagnating, many live quite all right and they are fine in this lukewarm puddle we soak our arses in surprisingly I know quite a few people who live comfortably and supported the Tisza, and there are quite a few people whose livelihood literally depends on the Fidesz being in power. And many got scared by the constant fearmongering the Fidesz produced since the start of 2024.
So it's not like the Fidesz is imploding like the old opposition, they are fine at the moment.
Another thought. This will sound like some conspiracy theory, but actually this is how things work.
These democratic systems in the American client countries are controlled to some extent. They create fake issues to devide the citizens and a handful of patron approved participants are promoted to vote on. They aren't really opponents of each other, the politicians that is - you can bet your arse some of the voters could kill each other over these issues. The media has key role in manipulating voters, this was true in pre-social media times, but now that grows into a real tool of manipulation.
Almost everyone is monitored these days 24/7. Smart-electronics: phones, watches, tvs, and literally everything in the internet of things collects data about the people and pass it to the Big Five and from there to US govt. They create psychological analysis and profiles of the population. As individuals and as a group as well. And the marketing of consumer goods is literally the same as political parties'.
The US is continuously doing client maintenance, routinely, and from the information they gain by surveillance, they can figure out if they need to nudge an election into one direction or the other - as part of the maintenance. Orbán and Co. had the steering wheel for four times in a row since 2010. They also built up a narrative that they couldn't detach themselves anymore, can't do anything else even if such is expected from them. So maybe Magyar Péter and Co. seemed like a more flexible leadership. Or perhaps they just wanted to clear the air before bringing back the Fidesz, letting someone else to the helm for a bit (perhaps snap election later this year). In a democracy it is unhealthy to have one leadership for a long time.
I'm fairly sure Vance came to Budapest to tell Orbán he'll lose this time. Orbán lobbied for support in the US govt, but he can't get it what he wanted - on the other hand he had to give what the US wanted (they did sign some deals).
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What does this election means for the future?
Unsure.

The Tisza promised a big housecleaning. They have the power to change the constitution (they have the power to mangle it or create a new one) and they have the legitimization to do legally questionable things as well, sidestepping certain norms.
Magyar Péter said things that may temper some (foreign) expectations. He said he doesn't want Ukraine to join EU in the near future. He said we still keep buying Russian oil. He said we still won't be part of taking the €90 billion loan on - tho he won't prevent it, but in return we need the EU gibsmedats.
They'll probably took out some parts form the constitution about hetero marriage and God and Jesus or soemthing. Tho recently I head some promises that nothing such will happen.

They gonna have problems.
The economy ain't doing good and the EU gibsmedats won't help much. They will learn what numbers they can work with, and what numbers and where they can change to appear they are doing something. There will be tight constraints. They can't just kick the bucket over everywhere, lots of people can lose their homes and could go bankrupt. Unless that's the plan of those above them.
There are too many masters to serve as well. Their voterbase is too colorful with different expectations. There will be tasks to be done given by their silent backers. They have to do the bidding of EPP which the Tisza member of. They have to conform to whatever the EU Council says. They have to keep up with Washington's demands. They can't just get rid of China and the existing deals and contracts. And they won't get rid of Russian energy apparently - important to note: it's not just gas and oil, but nuclear too.
On local level in the municipalities the Fidesz holds the majority at many places. Not in Budapest of course, but in the country all over.
And the Fidesz stacked all the offices with their own loyal aparatchiks. They will hamper the machine, but can Tisza get rid of them? Do they have the cadre to fill enough places?
Magyar Péter gave some interviews and statements but only had time to listen one. And that wasn't any good to be honest.
I know they (both opposition and Fidesz media, and Western media too) builds up the "tough negotiation expected" narrative, but I think the EU Commission will just give the money to the Tisza govt. to let them have a win to strenghten their position in the eyes of the voters, and keep the narrative.

I also should have give a listen to Orbán's latest interview, but did not. The only thing I caught is that they want a restructuring and a youthification of Fidesz. They'll boot some from the ranks. I suspect these will get investigated by the Magyar govt's iron fist for corruption.
Ah, Orbán also said he did not allow any corruption to happen. Löl.

What I don't expect is getting rid of corruption. I believe the Tisza will have to conform to expectations and constraints, but beyond they will stuff the pockets of their pals as customary. And since Magyar Péter engaged in corruption with Orbán's straw owner/Strohmann together, we can be sure he will stuff his own pockets with tax and EU money.

I might add stuff later. I don't really want to dwell on this, but sometimes I hear something ridiculous or important. Can't exclude the possibility.
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> So basically they had a populist program that promised everyone everything.
Sounds like they'll eat their own voting base from having to choose between incompatible promises and assign their enforcement to an unhelpful Orbanist bureaucracy.
News from Bulgaria. Does this mean from now on Bulgaria gets the role of the vetoer?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/20/bulgarias-former-president-radev-wins-election-all-you-need-to-know
Although he publicly condemned Russia’s 2022 invasion of Ukraine, he has also opposed providing military support to Ukraine and called, instead, for renewed, “practical relations with Russia based on mutual respect and equal treatment”.
He has also called for the resumption of Russian imports to Europe, despite EU sanctions on Russian oil
Following his victory, he told reporters: “A strong Bulgaria and a strong Europe need critical thinking and pragmatism. Europe has fallen victim to its own ambition to be a moral leader in a world with new rules.”
And news from US: companies now can seek compensation from US Govt for Trump's tariffs. 
https://apnews.com/article/tariff-refund-trump-customs-08861f153801156d213c30c4e2f6a683
Customs and Border Protection said in court filings that over 330,000 importers paid a total of about $166 billion on over 53 million shipments.
Not all of those orders qualify for the first phase of the refund system’s rollout, which is limited to cases in which tariffs were estimated but not finalized or within 80 days of a final accounting.
To receive refunds, importers have to register for the CPB’s electronic payment system. As of April 14, 56,497 importers had completed registration and were eligible for refunds totaling $127 billion, including interest, the agency said.
Back to politics. Actually the news. It's all over probably haven't checked, seen DPA's video about it.
There was some event with Trump and Vance and whole White House staff and other guests and whoever, gunmen run into the place, and got shot.
What did he want to achive I dunno.
Apparently some bloke from California, with fresh masters degree in IT decided to go to Washington for the event, to die essentially. He had several guns apparently. Even if he had achieved anything they would have killed him anyway.
How? Why? Makes no sense.

Also Trump should not be touched, he needs to get humiliated. He needs to fall from grace.
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Meanwhile Hungarian politics.

Orbán won't take his seat in the Parliament. He said he'll "reform the national side", and that the Fidesz needs the younger generation. I assume they'll stuff their group in the legislation with as many new faces as they can so voters can get use to them.

New legislation and government forms on this Saturday.
Minister of Justice: brother-in-law of the new PM
Minister of Education: LGBT warrior
Minister of Energy: Global Executive Vice President of Shell 
I think the rest isn't that suspicious/controversial picks.

In theory they won't support Ukraine's fast track EU membership, and still want to buy energy from Russia. They want to keep migration politics - the fence too.
They promise justice and the liquidation of corruption. They promise they'll bring the EU gibsmedats home.
They'll surely allow gay marriage and some stuff. Surely will promote degeneracy to kids.
They are contemplating the introduction of the Euro we'll be buggered properly if they do it.
I expect more surveillance - EU pushes it hard. And sometimes we get that antisemitism law (have to check, perhaps they already enacted it).

The global economy might shake our economy. EU is in a precarious situation.
I dunno. I don't expect anything good.
He referred to our first PM of the third Hungarian Republic, Antall József, couple of times, because they try to put this as a regime change.
Very nice empty phrases.
Oh yeah he literally said it, regime change.
Lots of blame on Orbán, but he mentions the "Gyurcsány-Orbán Era" - suggesting they are closing this now. Lotsa accusations. But basically this is what their voters want to hear: how Orbán fucked up the country.
He also lashes out at the opposition that wanted to save their political career.
He said they'll introduce a "national wealth recovery" law. Almost that rhythmical Stalinist applause followed, they started except he begin to talk. They will create an office to make this happen, to review how various funds, from tax to EU gibsmedats, were spent. This is another thing their voters wanna hear, keeping the thief Orbán accountable. Or at least whom they can catch for embezzlement and such. And they started that rhythmic clapping again.
Oh, the system of "breaks and counterpoise". That this was degraded and has to be rebuilt.
He called upon our Head of State, President Sulyok Tamás to resign. They want to elect their own President. In the name of the unification of the nation.

Ah, I have stuff to do, perhaps I'll listen the rest sometimes, surely it'll be up on youtube.

To close this post:
He speaks bad. His tone, intonation is awful, reminds me of a sermon.
Also this speech reminds me the testimony of Pelikán in the film, Tanu, when he has to tell his part with sizzling accusation. And that he didn't know he'll meet frogmen.
Now Putin is in China.
As for the Trump-Xi meeting, it sounded like empty phrases. I listened Wyatt of DPA, who is quite enthusiastic about it. He made two long videos, in the first he explained how China is cornered. Perhaps I just don't see how the US has any upper hand currently.
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Hungarian politics.
Not a comprehensive overview, just what I picked up listening with half an ear.
Dunno what's Orbán doing now. Still reforming the "national side" I guess.
The new govt. didn't do much yet since they are in power for only some days, so everything is relatively calm. People still loves em. Honeymoon period.
Back in 2020 national emergency was declared due to covid and then in 2022 due to the war. Actually the Orbán govt. just continuously prolonged it for it can be effect only for 30 days. Usually they say that it allowed them to govern through decree which is nonsense, the govt can enact decrees any time they want, in fact the declaration of the emergency was done via decree. There are other "attributes" of this - such as suspend various laws - but the whole thing is blown out of proportion to claim tyranny. Anyway this is now over. The new government abolished the emergency.
They declared vis maior situation due to drought. Now this has nothing to do with emergency it's just allows farmers to cite vis maior when they fail to do whatever is needed from them. So it's for alleviating their legal and monetary problems.
Apparently the "Utility Reduction" is good now, according to Tisza voters, previously they said it was bad. It's the Fidesz's practice of reducing the people's utility bills. Essentially the state pays part of the bill from the tax. So the people pay it except not from their pockets. Another way of viewing this: if they needn't pay tax they could afford to pay their utilities.
Apparently Russian energy is good now, according to Tisza voters, previously they said it was bad. Btw we should get the the oil now, Ukraine was able to "fix" the pipe within minutes. I don't know if we actually get anything tho.
Earlier this year Orbán and co. had to use most of the oil reserves to cover consumption and most importantly lessen the effect of the oil price hike due to the Friendship and Hormuz blockage. Since they they were filling up the reserves but again due to Trump's idiotism the new govt. also had to tap it, so the tanks are getting emptied again. Not sure what will be the end of it. This really doesn't depend on us or on our govt.
Our Foreign Minister (some woman) got grilled recently by the EU and Ukraine about Ukraine's EU membership. Not sure how this stands.
Oh the first govt. session was held at Ópusztaszer instead of wherever they hold them in Budapest. It's a village on the Hungarian plains. Legend says the first national assembly was held there by the conquerors to decide how to settle our people in the Carpathian basin. So very nationalistic symbolism. Whoever does similar (like putting the tricolor out...) leftlibs always bitch how they are "playing hungarian again". Apparently this time it was the best idea ever.
Uhh. There might be some other stuff I forgot about, and there must be some I just simply missed.
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What I don't get is with all the fucking surveillance (by Big Tech, plus drones and cameras everywhere) how the fuck these shooters can get to the point to fire their weapons?
The attempt at Trump in Pennsylvania, the guy trying in Florida, Charlie Kirk, that guy at the banquet or whatnot, not this. How do they avoid detection?
The easiest explanation: they let them.
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They are not hard to explain, one was a nut job who sprinted at a security checkpoint with a gun and got shot, the other was a nut job who drew a gun at a security checkpoint and got shot. They didn't sneak through any checkpoints.

The first shooter was staying in the hotel that the event was being held in and the second was just a dude walking down a public street which he is fully entitled to do, there was no way to stop him other than at a checkpoint and a checkpoint did stop him.

Kirk shooter didn't shoot the president but just some public speaker.

There was the ear shooter who tried sniping Trump of course, it seems like the reason he was able to get there was because there was confusion between the secret service and Police over who was responsible for that building.

In theory all it should take is one line of sight and somebody can shoot trump. Probably a determined and calculating shooter could do it and it would not surprise me if it happens one day.
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Buy bunch of dry pasta? Not sure.
As for day to day living I don't really expect much change. The lawmakers and their puppetmasters give us coloring books and we have to abide the rules of it.
I kinda fear for the Hungarian culture. Orbán govt not just let people do Hungarian stuff, but they had some faux-pro-Hungarian rhetoric and policy actions (like setting up some institution for research of Hungarian genetics and whatnot that fused with the old tradition). Among the backers of the current govt. there are people who hate Hungary, Hungarians, Hungarian culture, who openly deny it's existence.

Right now two things going on.
The current govt discovers items in the budget that has no cover to back it, in the thousands of billions of HUFs. That's liek a 100 Euro or so I dunno, but a lot. On the other hand they have promises to lower tax and give more gibsmedats to people. So they say they'll revise and examine everything and will audit govt spending and will keep the Orbán govt responsible, while slimming bureaucracy and whatnot. And try to get the money from the EU, but that has a deadline and I dunno, drama is high.
The other one is a scandal around a pardon the previous President of the Republic, Novák Katalin gave to some dude. The crime in itself is not really serious: he tried to cover up someone else's crime. Where it gets scandalous is that the crime the other dude committed is a sexual crime against underage people. So ofc everyone got riled up, crying pedophilia and ofc everyone wants to look very strict and demand justice because they fear they'll get accused with pedophilia... the accusation that can ruin lives. This was the reason Novák left her office, back then when this happened and got publicized.
However when this happened the Minister of Justice was Varga Judit, who was the wife of our current PM, Magyar Péter. Their marriage and divorce wasn't the nicest - there is another ongoing scandal around this but I won't go into that.
Anyway now they are publishing the files, and they behave like as if they were the Epstein files. Right now what I'm hearing everyone tries to pile the shit onto Novák. As far as it can be told someone put this case of in front of her to sign it and pardon the dude but noone seems to know who was it.
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Watching the video.
> hungary is getting richer
Heh. What news does he read and/or listen?
> romania stable government
I don't even know when they had a stable govt last time. Orbán was japing that during his time, in 16 years, there were 11 or so Romanian prime ministers...
> expecting current PSD coalition to fix the economy with the previous PSD coalition fucked up
> János, I...
Also in one of his previous video he just said how Orbán's Hungary's economy is worse than Romania.
> paying for medical care every time they visit the doctor
They just discovered the free market. Romania caught up to the US finally.
All right I stop commenting every line.
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Kid Starver is gone.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/22/keir-starmer-quits-prime-minister-what-will-happen-next-uk-politics-explained
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/06/22/keir-starmer-resigns-prime-minister-burnham-labour/

Crocodile tears and everything. Whole country is cheering.
> But although he was elected with the biggest parliamentary majority in 100 years,
Kek. Their electoral system is more broken than ours.

Anyway.
The UK is going down the shitter, he was just the latest iteration of turd. Next guy won't be any better. The UK is getting turned into an impotent distopic multikulti police/surveillance state with imperial demeanor.
I wonder when will be a mass emigration of the remaining Europid population into the US. Perhaps when they provoke Russia enough to destroy their energy sector as a response. They don't even need to nuke anything.
I don't see any future for the Small Island bright. Not for Europe either tho, it's not like we'll fare much better.
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What's going on on the Hungary since the new govt. was stepped into office? 2 and a half months?
Not much to be honest. There are loud issues, tug-of-war over nothing. Well not nothing but these things aren't really an issue.

The loudest since day 1 is the sacking of the President of the Republic. Problem? He was elected by the Fidesz Parliament, he doesn't represent the unity of the country, which is a huge problem of course, can't live like this. So there was constant bitching about it, PM MP called upon him each week to resign. Finally they made an amendment to the constitution that included him gone. Ofc laws have to be signed by the Prez, if he doesn't do it then they can strip him from his office. So he was forced to sign his own sacking. He could have sent the law to the Constitutional Court, so they can check if this it conforms to the constitution, but it's not unconstitutional, it's just kind of a dick move to make a cookie cutter law just for a specific person, especially on constitution level.

Now PM MP announced somewhere that he found the best person for new President of the Republic: Polgár Judit, chess grandmaster.
Sure why not, we already had someone from the field of sports as a Prez, I don't mind. Maybe she will be a swell one, the Prez is essentially a figurehead, it doesn't really matter except when they can make noise out of it.
And this sounds exactly like that, the whole issue of the new person of the Prez sounds the good opportunity to be loud about, look busy with something that actually doesn't matter much.
Political theater to appear busy without actually doing anything. And to appease their voters since they promised a showdown with the Fidesz politicians.
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And they do more personalized legislation, to "deconstruct the Fidesz state apparatus".

I think first ad hominem law targeted Orbán. They amended the constitution so a PM can only serve two cycles. It's counted retroactively, to prevent Orbán becoming a PM again. Well, we could say, that it surely effects previous PMs as well, no? No. Even Gyurcsány isn't effected since he did not serve 2 full terms. It's clearly about Orbán.

Next law is about the members of the parliament, the representatives. In their case, they also want to introduce a term cap for them. 8 or 12 years (2 or 3 parliamentary cycles), I have not followed this that closely. Now this has constitutional problems because this would impede constitutional right of being electable.
Because of this, at least two Fidesz mp left/is leaving. I'm guessing to give place to new faces so they can become known names for the voters.

I couldn't care less if Orbán can't become Prime Minister again, and I don't care much how long people can serve as representatives. Perhaps at least this prevents career politicians to rise. But perhaps not.
The thing is, this ain't matter much anyway. Again a political theater to keep the attention of the people fixed.
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Because they don't do much.
They hyped that PMMP got the EU gibsmedats with skillful negotiation = accepting everything Ursula von der Leyen told him. We don't and can't really know what are the terms they giving us to fulfill. There are a plethora of legislation, chains of laws, which we have some vague ideas of. But what else? They can demand what the fuckever.

After this PMMP did skillful negotiations with Zelensky. He achieved that Kiev will restore for all the rights of the Hungarian minority, language use, schooling and whatnot, in return we allow the €90 billion to flow. I see some problems with this:
1. There were laws in Ukraine that guaranteed the rights of the minorities, up until 2014.
2. It is a fundamental requirement to guarantee the rights of the minorities in case of any country if they want to join to the EU, so Kiev has to implement this no matter what.
3. The money now is already flowing, happened anything about the minority rights issue?
Basically PMMP told Zelensky that they get the money for nothing in return. Then our media told us how swell deal he made.

So basically this is the two things I can recall the new govt did beyond the showcase politics. Perhaps I missed something I generally do not follow that much.
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She said she don't/can't/won't accept the position. It looks like PMMP just threw the idea in without asking. However I do think there was previous talks, and this was some kind of testing the waters, perhaps not for her but for the openness of the Hungarian society.
Flames are high, or rather the smoke. There were many reactions form all sides. Even from such important figures like that high school girl who dared to say "dick" during some public performance (the public outrage propelled her to a position that now a generation of youth is listening to her).
Kneeway. Theater. Circus. No bread, just circus.


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