/kc/ - Krautchan

 >>/34027/
This looks almost organic, like a dry and thorny shrubbery, but I guess they are thousands of small fishermen boats.

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 >>/40746/
Hairy.

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New Nazca lines appearing in the Gobi desert in the shape of aircraft carriers. They're using it for target practice. Although picrel doesn't really look like one, and even the picture in the article is more like a bottle than a vessel. Ofc they don't need exact replicas.
The photos were taken by Maxar, a company doing space stuff.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/08/asia/chinese-military-mock-targets-us-aircraft-carrier-warships-intl/index.html
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/china-uses-us-warship-models-target-practice

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Sand and water must have different properties on radars (at least when it is about warm and humid air with different density etc), so it is strange that they've made it in desert. Is it much cheaper than making floating hull of same size?

 >>/45528/
I bet couple of aircraft carriers are tucked away in the Siberian tundra.
> Sand and water must have different properties on radars (at least when it is about warm and humid air with different density etc)
Also clutter and noise can be different with the objects of the field.
> Is it much cheaper than making floating hull of same size?
Maybe they can make it from cheaper, different materials?

It must be a reason why Chinese did this, if it is really what the articles say, and used as they say.

 >>/45526/
It looks like it is covered in sensors and antennas and also it has the island on the side but also three houses running down the middle that make no sense for a target, maybe it is to be used to train carrier crews and not as something to attack.

 >>/45530/
It's covered in curry.
Yeah, that one I posted has that three blocks what you called houses.
The other one with the bottle shape just looks entirely flat.

 >>/45528/
> Is it much cheaper than making floating hull of same size?
Sinking a floating hull would be inefficient.

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Thanks to Geowizard (specifically to this video: https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=Gs8_imDcII8) I found something.
This road is in Kuwait. It seems they planned four crossroads on road 801 in E-W direction. First screenshots from openstreetmap, then google.
I understand the southernmost, which would allow an already existent road to run directly toward a port on that eastern island. But the other three?

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It seems the second from the south, nothing came out of it.
Did they scrap the project, or they are at the very beginning?
No idea when the google sat images were made.

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> But the other three?
Maximizing construction costs and hence, a bigger budget to steal from.

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 >>/47395/
Likely explanation. But maybe it was part of an ambitious plan that was torpedoed by events.
They have other ongoing or failed projects. And some urban planning I. Probably further south in these oil emirates and such must be quite a few.

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Aridity gradients, stripes, endorheic basins and pixellated farmland.

 >>/48140/
Should be a river there, flowing towards Bahia Blanca. Lotsa lakes however.

https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=twAP3buj9Og
https://youtube.com/watch?v=twAP3buj9Og

Couldn't find them on Google Maps. Maybe I did not search thoroughly enough (likely), or they marked the place deliberately wrong so some idiot won't go there snooping and getting some accident.
I also did not watch the video full, I skipped and stepped through many parts.

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Bolivians experimenting with different ways to distribute plots of land.

 >>/48542/
The long stripes, we call them "belt plots" (belt as the leather strip holding one's trousers). They always tend to be just too small for a family to live off of.
The other with the squares and triangles in them... some plots must suck, I see some river beds meander through them.

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Egypt is trying to create farmland and living space outside the valley of the Nile since the population growth is forcing them to. One area is SE from the delta, the other is in the south, where they plan to refill the Toshka lakes (which are man made in the firs place), and the lands would surround those.
Basically this is a terraforming effort.
https://eros.usgs.gov/media-gallery/earthshot/toshka-project-egypt
https://www.egypttoday.com/Article/1/115145/Toshka-agricultural-project-revived-amid-Egypt%E2%80%99s-hope-to-achieve-self

 >>/48911/
They could try some canal to the Qattara Depression, which wouldn't require any Nile water. Many ways to use the Mediterraenan and the height difference.

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Untouched river banks and perpendicular land distribution.

 >>/49681/
Is it really untouched? Rivers often meandering and that one looks like a regulated straight running. Although that just a short segment.

let me test

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 >>/49687/
But they're not farming down there.

Coastal São Paulo is curious, it's hard to find any agriculture, they just cut the jungle for their city blocks and that's it.

 >>/49819/
My First SimCity.

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These days I'm interested in the structure of Medieval Japanese fishing villages. I wonder if there's any satellite imagery of those.

 >>/50443/
As for Japanese settlements in general, there were:
- villages, towns built around castles, fortified samurai residencies, these types came into fashion after the rise of the samurai class
- planned towns, cities, these are obviously the work of centralized governments, be it imperial or local
- post towns/villages, these were set up along existing roads, where they offered various services, inns, rest-houses, clothing, etc.
- farming villages, these were situated at open fields, they bunched up the houses at a place they regarded as the least suitable for rice fields (or orchards), and they cultivated as much land around as they could
- fishing villages built near the coast ofc!, how they were built really depends on the specific location, I started to gather screenshots from google maps of various types

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So I was screenshotting the SE shores of Kyushu, and nearby small islands. Lemme tell you I found some scenic ones. Inspiring romanticism. The most notable difference between the state of medieval fishing village and modern one are these concrete embankments and the asphalt road snaking behind. Ofc they had roads similarly at the shore, following the feet of the hills.

Here's an site listing types of ships/boats Japans used "back in the day" before they modernized.
https://theropetokyo-en.jimdofree.com/japanese-ships-1/model-ships-of-japanese-boats/
Two examples of fishing boats. The first one is a trawler.

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The hills are the most decisive factors how the settlements followed the landscape. But three more defining feature I found:
1. actual beaches, that gently sloping into the water
2. rivers
3. open flatland
Now I have to note, now these settlements aren't necessarily "fishing" ones, despite the boats. At some google explicitly wrote it is. Or at least the port is for fishing boats.
Here are some types I found representative:
#1 This is similar to this  >>/50443/, where the houses follow the shore on a longer distance, in a couple houses depth, occasionally a road leading inside depending on the size of the village.
#2 The houses are bunched up in a valley at a narrow beach.
#3 The valley/s offer flat lands where they can cultivate rice or some such.
#4 More often then not a stream or river will run in the main valley, offering more space to build and for cultivation.

 >>/50687/
Perhaps the second one is not the best representative, since that also features a stream. I saw elsewhere without, I plan to make more screenshots. Anyway it will suit.

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Frankly every valley is basically made by water eroding the softer ground away. So even those places where no river or stream there should be some periodic water drainage.
All the sandy beaches in a place like Kyushu's SE shores are the work of rivers? They are basically alluvium (alluvia??). 
Plus pre-industrial Japs without tap water had to drink something. I dunno how wells fare that close to the sea.
Bah, it doesn't matter for my amateur typology of Jap fishing villages.

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Anosibe Ambohiby, a village created by settlers like 15 years ago, on Madagascar.
Another cool stuff from Vox, similar to this:  >>/48149/
It's surprising that there are places on this Earth, where people can just get the idea and move to a remote place and create their own settlement noone knows about, and live in relative peace, on their own. And a good feeling too.
But now people know about them and have to pay taxes.

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Forgot the link:
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=h42QVfrUVFw
https://youtube.com/watch?v=h42QVfrUVFw

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 >>/51605/
This and their other video on Saharan circles was just what I yearned for, I wish they'd do more on this format.

> It's surprising that there are places on this Earth, where people can just get the idea and move to a remote place and create their own settlement noone knows about, and live in relative peace, on their own.
You can find private ventures founding new settlements on newly deforested land less than 50 years ago, but those made every effort to connect themselves with the rest of the world. To be fair, Anosibe Ambohiby isn't a closely guarded secret, they have to sell their crops and buy consumer and capital goods and some or most of this trade necessarily happens in the nearby villages. Given enough time and insistent interviews, the film crew could have gathered at least superficial information on Anosibe without entering the massif.

This blog post makes important questions:
https://christiankull.net/2023/12/09/tany-malalaka-settling-new-land-in-the-western-highlands-of-madagascar/
>  Haubursin’s excellent video opens up many more questions. I’d love to learn more from the farmers of Anosibe Ambohiby – how did they negotiate access to the land with nearby villagers and the cattle grazers used to free rein in the crater grasslands? How do they manage the free-burning pastures fires that must annually come close to their new orchards? Do they have connections to a trustworthy citrus merchant who regularly buys their oranges and lemons? And finally, what is the impact of their new-found internet fame? Will it bring more settlers seeking out the volcanic soils and plentiful water? Will it bring government services or the tax man? Will it bring dahalo cattle rustlers and thieves?
They even filmed cattle on the road to the village, and another notable piece of evidence is the village elder's story - he got to know the area while trading cattle. I saw no fences but that land did belong to someone, no matter how loose property claims may have been. And Anosibe's settlers must have had a good degree of pooled wealth to invest in buying land in the area, they are successful cash crop producers after all.

One of the video's themes is the inaccessibility of certain locations from the Internet. But being unlabelled is the default state for the entire planet. Urban areas are the exception, you can expect Google Maps to name just about every single street. Rural areas have no streets but they do have equivalents to neighborhoods, and those are hard to find on the Internet. I know one such case easily accessible by a state highway, with a sign on the road and well known by locals, and yet Google has no trace of it. You might find such places by downloading massive PDF maps or shapefiles from government databases.

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The vegetation on the right bank of this stream was mostly deforested , while the left bank is mostly intact. Usually you'd expect deforestation on both banks at the valley floor, with patches of intact jungle preserved at the hilltops.

 >>/51926/
> happens in the nearby villages
According to the video they sell it in that one town. Which makes sense as probably that's the center of trade with a market where people form nearby villages go to sell their stuff and buy whatever they need.
I'll read the article later.

> that land did belong to someone, no matter how loose property claims may have been.
The land can be privately owned or by the state. If the state lacks the resources to keep track of whatsgoingon, or lack regulations and people can squat anywhere perhaps they really can just settle and produce what they need.
For me its hard to imagine for I live in this bureaucratic shithole EU, and semi-authoritarian shithole Hungary. For example we have a law that says I can spend max 24 hours anywhere in the woods at one place, and can't erect permanent structures. Maybe Madagascar lacks such law. Could be /out/ist wet dream. Who knows.
> well known by locals, and yet Google has no trace of it
I concur with the implication that while we have the unprecedented power to look at any place in the world, or get information just about anything, this also creates the illusion of all-knowing and makes us blind to massive amount of information that really exists. Language barrier is still there no matter of auto/AI translators, and possibilities to get certain information in governmental databases - which might or might not be accessible online even for the locals - is slim.

Read that blogpost here  >>/51926/ and I suspect it's a Madagascaran practice of land development to let communities to form themselves, let inner migration free to occupy and cultivate previously seldomly used lands, turning the unused means of production (the land, the soil) to be put to work and naturally allow growth without state investment.
I do suspect there is a merchant in that nearby town who deals in wholesale products and buy fruits and who then exports it.
There is still that chapter from the book he links to be explored or directly the laws of Madagascar. I'm not sure I'll go to either direction.

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Another line of circles. Lines of circles, many of them. This time in Iran.

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So these are part of irrigation systems, 11 all in all registered at UNESCO. Chains of wells and tunnels to channel water from below the hillsides to the settlements. They idea is some three thousand years old, and they are working and maintained today still. Some article I found said that about 40K people's water is supported by them.
https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1506/

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Now it's all nice and good. But what the fuck is this? There are the circles of qanat system at the top of the picture, but that large circle with the 12 circles within. What that might be? Obviously human made that's not a mystery. It's near Yazd, S-SW from the settlement or thereabout.

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I was looking for good overhead views of coffee plantations and found something else entirely - most sources call it a volcanic crater.

And somewhere else, hideous tiger stripes on a hill. Presumably all plots range from the valley floor to the ridge but some were bought and completely deforested and others were ignored.

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Coffee is the most delightful crop to look at from the air. Hundreds of evenly spaced dots and they follow contour lines on uneven terrain.

Coconuts might come in second, followed by bananas.

 >>/55344/
> crater
There is a body of water in there?
> stripes
Looks curious they typically cut the "right" side of the ridges but left the left untouched.

 >>/55345/
Some of those roads look like the height/elevation lines on a map. Not sure what the correct term is.

Sorry, Bernd. Your post went unnoticed for a while.

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 >>/55365/
> There is a body of water in there?
In the north, yes. What's missing is a rim.

> Some of those roads look like the height/elevation lines on a map. Not sure what the correct term is.
Countour lines. It's a standard anti-erosion practice for coffee. You can see on the first picture it's not needed on flat ground. But as a tropical highland crop, there will always be arabica coffee on steep slopes.

 >>/55366/
I figured the blueish patch in the south isn't water, but what is it?
Also it seems like the lake was larger previously.

How does it help with erosion?

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 >>/20474/
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Impressive... Very nice.
 >>/20411/
Always thought pivot irrigation farms looked cool. Picsrel: Aerial views of Orania, sprawling PIFs in rural Kansas
Also, while on the subject of circular cities: Nördlingen! A perfectly circular German mediaeval town built inside of a meteor crater, now known as 'die Rieskrater'. 
And while we're on the subject of curious mediaeval cities, supposedly Bologna Italy had skyscrapers during the Renaissance.

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 >>/26360/
Favela da Rocinha

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 >>/55376/
I know about Nördlingen. Cool little "medieval" town.
> round fields
I build them in Tropico 4. But sometimes it's better to keep the regular farms.

 >>/55377/
Yeah, Bologna had those. And perhaps couple other towns. They were like castles for patricians.
Some still remains.
Wanted some google streetview from the hill south of town but too many goddamn hedges, can't see shit.

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 >>/55367/
> I figured the blueish patch in the south isn't water, but what is it?
Empty farmland. You can see it in use in earlier dates.

> How does it help with erosion?
Every row of shrubs along the countour lines is perpendicular to the direction of surface runoff.

 >>/55376/
Nördlingen is what every crater city wishes it could be.

> Always thought pivot irrigation farms looked cool.
They're a good contrast to all the right angles in cropland. Or the desert.

> And while we're on the subject of curious mediaeval cities, supposedly Bologna Italy had skyscrapers during the Renaissance.
Cramped and ominous. I love it.