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 >>/113676/
it isn't "empirically false" and you need to learn the definition of "empirical," but before you do that you need to admit you don't know fucking shit about anything and that women statistically do not date down economically, exceptions only prove the rule and observable realities are not built on the backs of exceptions, stupid fucking womanoid giving horrible advice and denying the actual fact of the matter as usual

NEVER take dating advice from women
 >>/114204/
I am open minded, so I always try to listen to them, but 99% of the time I am disappointed.
It's sad to say, but they simply don't understand. They start getting swarmed with attention by like 13, so they couldn't possibly understand getting none all your life.
 >>/114211/
Doesn't mean that you have to create a fictional world for yourself where 99% of men are either incels or cucks and the only ones who can have a decent, normal relationship are apollonian millionaire demigods.
Average, ugly and poor men get engaged all the time, you need to face reality.
 >>/114220/
Yeah, they get engaged at 30 when the woman is ready to let the betabucks pay for her stuff. That's not a selling point. If women in their early-mid 20s genuinely went for their looksmatch, then I'd believe you.
why are people so eager to dismiss men's problems? Why do they insist so hard that men are never in a bad situation, and when they are, it's 100% their own fault.
It's like there's a guttural hatred at the concept of men having any victimhood points at all.
 >>/114232/
> yeah they just (elaborate headcanon)
Looks and money are just the shields you use to avoid reflecting on the type of person you are and the real reasons why you're not attractive.
How can a woman possibly love a whiny excuse maker like you? Your victim complex isn't gonna get you any pussy.
 >>/114204/
Maybe if you didn’t circlejerk and whine on imageboards about women not wanting men without money you would have better observation skills regarding what women actually want. The women I know consistently date men who are financially worse off than them, no it’s not the case for everyone but the vast majority of women do not fucking care. At least below the age of 30. I promise they have no interest in you due to your abysmal personality and cuckoldry fetish, and nothing else. Please continue to take advice from other men on endchan though i’m sure it will give you great success!
 >>/114270/
> How can a woman possibly love a whiny excuse maker
There it is. Every single time.
Any time the """advice""" isn't automatically accepted, it instantly turns into hostility personal attacks. I can smell the r*ddit from here.
 >>/114276/
100%. It's just a way to convince themselves that they're above others. "I might be a 25yo virgin, but at least I'm not a stinky poopy inkwell"
 >>/114317/
You only feel attacked because you know it's true. 
You would move heaven and earth to avoid putting your personality in question, convincing yourself that it's all because of things beyond your control is just too comforting.
Not OP but I got asked to go out by a qt grill this weekend. Over Instagram. Don't really feel like going even though she's nice but I will anyway and see what happens. Just a reminder that social media is a good tool for meeting people IRL.
 >>/114417/
I'd say I'm like a 6. I have an okay job and live with 2 roommates so it's not ideal but it's enough to support myself. I don't post much except I share a lot of posts on my stories like memes and recent vinyl hauls. I guess a stranger because I followed her after seeing her comment on a post about something going on in our city and after liking each other's stories we started sending each other memes. Happened very naturally. She asked me if I was gonna go to this upcoming thing in town then asked me to go with her. Refusing to use social media is shooting yourself in the foot.
 >>/114419/
Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
It's kinda obvious to use social media to meet women, when you think about it. Women have been using it as a dating service, by posting pics of themselves to see if any guy bites the bait. It's mindblowing that I'm only now making the connection.
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You're telling me women care about personality? That's funny, next you'll tell me women actually have different tastes in men, like preferring fat fucks, or manlets, or ugly men, or poor men, or sub8 non-Chads of any kind.
 >>/114594/
> You're telling me women care about personality? 
Yes. Good looking men with boring or annoying personalities have an easy time finding a gf but get dumped even more easily.
> fat fucks
The amount of women who are into fat guys is genuinely staggering.
 >>/114594/
Sounds like somebody has never delved into female gooner subreddits. It's shocking how many women have the hots for fat niggas. I've also met a weird number of women who flat out tell me they want short boyfriends, not as part of a femdom kink or anything either afaik, they were normie women who just liked short dudes. I assumed it was because their first bfs were short or something but who knows.
 >>/114608/
Why must there be only one girl I can love? 😭 I need to get back to her or I will die of loneliness, yet there are all these other hotties all over the place but arbitrary retarded ruled and the wickedness of that cunt Harris have made them inaccessible.
 >>/114602/
> but get dumped even more easily
Got any examples\proof of this? I'm open minded, but I find this hard to believe.
> into fat guys
Let me guess, those fat guys are exceptionally tall, and those women are moreso into "size" in general than actually getting off to the man's moobs and gut.
> hots for fat niggas
> want short boyfriends
I find this very VERY hard to believe. Do you have any proof of this kind of stuff?
> women who flat out tell me
Yeah but women lie all the time, especially if it'll make her look good, like claiming to not be shallow, so it's hard to believe what they say.
> not as part of a femdom kink
Fuck.
> female gooner subreddits
Go on.
> their first bfs were short
I've noticed that in men, their first gf, or first woman they get close to, often deeply affects his taste in women, but again, I find it hard to believe it happens with women too.
The closest thing I know of is the author of FMA lol.
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 >>/114615/
It sounds like you have a case of oneitis, my friend. An abundance of new women and a little wisdom will probably cure you.
You might want to emotionally distance yourself from her before you hear about her being with other men and feeling like you're being NTR'd.
 >>/114621/
No one else is going to go near a "creepy" and "crazy" girl like her. I need her back with every fiber of my being. Or I at least need the chance to go on that one date with her I missed by five minutes five years ago. If we need to depart we need to depart, but I gotta know.
(I most likely need to move far away from here because of stupid shitty gentrification anyway, though.)
 >>/114619/
No proof on hand but my own word. I was/am the type of guy that makes friends with women pretty easily (usually without being attracted to them fwiw) and they trust me so a decent amount of them would mention it every so often when talking about guys they were seeing. Still wasn't anywhere near the majority of them but enough to let me know there's no shortage of women like that, just like how men who like small tits (me) aren't the majority but there's still enough of them. Good point about the fat dudes being tall, they probably were, tho the women I've known to prefer short guys seemed to like em a little chubby. Not full on fat though. I don't think women in general get off on highly specific male features honestly, it seems like it's always about more broad things. Height instead of long limbs, fatness instead of moobs/gut, etc. Whereas men are more likely to hone in on specific body parts and clothing items and features.

 >>/114620/
These women were NOT trying to avoid seeming shallow lmao, they were still women, they just happened to like men who weren't stereotypical chads. They weren't ugly either, but they were all dorky in one way or another which def had a role in shaping their tastes I guess. 
> in men, their first gf often deeply affects his taste in women but I find it hard to believe it happens with women
I remember reading about some studies done that disproved the idea that parents shape someone's taste in the opposite sex and that the most influential thing is your first crush/love/gf/bf/whatever. I can't find it rn but I'll keep trying to look.
 >>/114626/
> a decent amount of them would mention it
I still don't quite believe women just saying it (actions louder than words), but I'll keep what you've been saying in mind. I sure wish I'm wrong about women, and that they're not utterly shallow with the same tastes.
> no shortage of women like that
Kinda hard to believe that when a ton of unattractive men are single\virgins, not to mention hypergamy.
> I don't think women in general get off on highly specific male features honestly, it seems like it's always about more broad things. Height instead of long limbs, fatness instead of moobs/gut, etc. Whereas men are more likely to hone in on specific body parts and clothing items and features.
That's a very good point, and one I hadn't considered.
> These women were NOT trying to avoid seeming shallow lmao
Women will lie even if it's to themselves, so ehhh idk.
> some studies done
That sounds interesting, I'd like to take a look at those studies too.

If what you're claiming is true, I believe it would help a lot of men out there. But only if it's true.
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 >>/113804/
> macbook
> yami kawaii stickers everywhere
> Lain
> moids
> cake on a pink platter
> muh personality
YWNBI (You Will Never Be an Incel). You're not special. You will never be as cool as we are. True individuality develops only in opposition to society. By 30s you'll grow out of your anime phase and become jaded by all the Chads you couldn't keep, find God when you couldn't find Chad anymore, and become another "valuable member of our community". Such is your destiny. I pity you, truly - it's like you never were alive in the first place.

PS:
Bet you'll also become fat from all that cake.

PPS:
Lain is for normie posers, true incels empathize with the Major with her dissociative disorder.
Be patient anon get financially stable enough to provide for a family and be a based chad 30 year old virgin.Baseing your actions on what other men think about what you do with ur pp is gay, and women like it when men are virgins too. Like reasonably why would a female want someone who sleeps who the first hole they get a chance with? Chasity>incontinence
 >>/113019/
wow 
this is some awful red pill bs. 
I’m an ugly fuck, and my last gf was obsessed over by hundreds of guys the entire time we dated. 
Before her, was a really attractive white girl with an incredible figure, a great future, and really sweet. 
The current gf did modeling in her early teens in France,‘she’s an empathetic lovefool. She’s obsessed with our relationship and treats me better than any girl before her. 
Since dating her, I’ve gained 25lbs and lost a bunch of muscle. 
Meanwhile she continues to get hotter. She was a 32B when we met and now she’s a 34E after gaining 10 lbs. 
Im the guy that people stare at and quizzically guess what I have that lands these hot girls. The reason girls won’t date you is because you think they won’t.
 >>/179911/
If you sincerely can’t find a gf or you just want to get laid, I can promise you that I can make it happen. I’d even wager on it. 
And I won’t have to pay a girl to do it. 
I’m so confident that I don’t even need to see what you look like because I can’t coach you into saying the right shit. 
You’ll literally know within an hour of talking online, if she’s eager to fuck you.
 >>/113004/
2 years late, but you fumbled that study-date interaction by starting to talk too much about your own interests. Women love to talk about themselves, it makes them feel understood and heard. Treat it as a playful interrogation, and don't be afraid to let awkward silences play out until she tries to break it. It also keeps you mysterious.

> nerd/alt girls
This is a masculine type, the sooner you let it go the better. Women tend to conform to current social norms, and her nerd/alt persona will start looking very normie the more you know her. 

This  >>/113019/ advice is both right and also shit. If your not a defective genetic freak or overweight, focus on obivous self-care shit like a good haircut, well-fitting clothes for your body type, and basic personal hygine. If you can't take care of the basic necessities for yourself, you probably wont do it for her in the long run and she can detect that, even subconsciously. 

t. anon that is put together but too self conscious to ever cold approach anyone so nothing ever happens


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