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- Coast Guard Rear Admiral David Barata:Yes, yes, I recognize that.
Eli Crane: Do you recognize that the president made direct maritime interdictions when enforcing sanctions or national security measures, Admiral?
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Coast Guard Rear Admiral David Barata: Yes, I do. We follow that.
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Eli Crane: Okay. So one of the things that's concerned me as a former service member myself is a video that was made by Senator Mark Kelly and several other senators who just a couple months ago, they made a video to tell service members that they don't need to follow unlawful orders.
Admiral, are you familiar with this video?
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Coast Guard Rear Admiral David Barata: I have not seen the video itself.
I was following the news story, obviously, and the escalation of the decision.
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Eli Crane: It made national news, did it not, Admiral?
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Coast Guard Rear Admiral David Barata: It did, indeed.
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Eli Crane: Did you or any of the other high-ranking Coast Guard officers that you work with fear that a video like that might undermine your chain of command?
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Coast Guard Rear Admiral David Barata: From my standpoint, I have found that our service members will follow lawful orders as given.
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Eli Crane: You know, I find it interesting, Admiral, that I didn't see any videos made like that from members of Congress during the Biden administration. I want to submit an article for the record.
This is from CNN. "Biden finalizes new rules for US drone strikes.
President Joe Biden has signed a long awaited classified policy tightening the rules for the CIA and Pentagon to carry out deadly drone strikes and commando raids conducted outside of traditional war zones, U.S. officials said on Friday." This was October 7th, 2022. Did you notice that no members of Congress, including Senator Kelly, made any videos during this time, Admiral?
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Coast Guard Rear Admiral David Barata: I'm not familiar with that article.
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Eli Crane: But you didn't see any videos, did you?
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Coast Guard Rear Admiral David Barata: I didn't. Not that I recall, no.
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Eli Crane: As service members, we tend to follow these types of things, right?
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Coast Guard Rear Admiral David Barata: Yes.
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Yeah. I found that very interesting that they weren't making videos during that time frame about whether or not service members follow lawful orders or not. And I think we all know that, right, Admiral? Don't we get that training and basic training that we're not supposed to follow unlawful orders?
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Coast Guard Rear Admiral David Barata: Absolutely.
And at all the session sources, that is what we train our personnel.
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Eli Crane: Yeah. So did you find that video a little bit odd, knowing that we all know that?
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Eli Crane: I find that it's, you know, for me, as I reflect on it, I think it's unnecessary.
I think our personnel will know to follow lawful orders and to question unlawful orders.
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Eli Crane: Yeah. That's what I thought, too.
Admiral, Congress delivered for you guys in a pretty big way during the reconciliation package. Is that correct?
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