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Secretary Marco Rubio: Well, I can go on. I mean, there's other things here. We spent $227,000 for Big Cat's YouTube channel from USAID. We spent $14 million for social cohesion in Mali, whatever the hell that means. So I can go on and on. I got the list here, and there's more.
I didn't even bring the whole list. In the case of El Salvador, absolutely, absolutely. We deported gang members, gang members, including the one that you had a margarita with.
And that guy is a human trafficker, and that guy is a gangbanger, and the evidence is going to be clear in the days to come.
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Mr. Chairman, I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman.
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Secretary Rubio has the floor.
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Mr. Chairman, he can't make unsubstantiated comments like that. Secretary Rubio has the floor. Secretary Rubio should take that testimony to the federal court of the United States because he hasn't done it under oath.
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Secretary Marco Rubio: Here's another point, okay?
There is a division in our government between the federal branch and the judicial branch.
No judge in the judicial branch cannot tell me or the president how to conduct foreign policy.
No judge can tell me how I have to outreach to a foreign partner or what I need to say to them. And if I do reach the foreign partner and talk to them, I have under no obligation to share that with the judiciary branch.
Just like a judge cannot order me to negotiate with a foreign minister of Russia, they cannot order me to negotiate with a foreign minister or the president of El Salvador.
And if I did negotiate with them, which we have responded to them, and we've told them we've had communications with the president of El Salvador, I am under no obligation under our division of powers in this country to share with the led the judicial branch how I conducted diplomacy of the United States.
It would actually be counterproductive. If I started sharing with courts, or frankly, with the media, my conversations with foreign leaders and all of their details, no foreign leader would talk to me again, and we would break trust with them.
So I have complied with every court order.
What I won't comply with is in order to disclose what I'm saying and what we're talking about with a foreign leader, because then they won't talk to me.
Diplomacy doesn't work that way.
About the student visas, let me say this. I don't deport anybody, and I don't snatch anybody.
The State Department does not have officers in the streets snatching everybody.
What I do is revoke visas, and it's very simple.
A visa is not a right. It is a privilege. People apply for student visas to come into the United States and study.
And if you tell me that you're coming to the United States to lead campus crusades, to take over libraries and burn down, try to burn down buildings and acts of violence, we're not going to give you a visa.
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Is that what Ms. Ostrow did?
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We're not going to give you a visa.
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