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Some have accused these companies of obfuscating and in some cases misleading election administrators and the American public.
So I'd like to ask each of you, do you have components in your supply chain that come from either Russia or China?
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Chairperson, we do not have components that come from Russia. We do have a limited number of components that come from China.
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Thanks for the question.
It wasn't our company in the Terrasys report, but we do have components in our products that come from China.
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Ms. Mathis?
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Yes, similar feedback here. We take the security of our supply chain very seriously, and we actively monitor and assess all aspects of that supply chain, including country of origin.
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So do you have components from China or Russia?
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We do not have components from Russia, but we do have, similar to my colleagues, we do have components...
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And what would be the nature of those components?
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Similar resistors, capacitors, the global supply chain for technology components of that.
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And what percentage do you know? I don't have.
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We'll follow up with that. Is there any method of voting that's 100% secure?
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No.
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No.
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No.
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Do you sell voting machines that have network capabilities installed? Can you be more specific?
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Yes, you don't have the software installed, but you have the capability of installing it.
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For remote access software?
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Yes.
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We do not, we no longer install any remote access software.
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That process was discontinued in 2006 and is not allowed by any of the EAC testing.
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We got a firsthand look when we visited ES&S, the largest manufacturer of voting machines, and talked to CEO Tom Burt.
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Why is there a Sprint thing here and a Verizon thing here?
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There's a small percentage of jurisdictions in the country, a lot of them are in Florida, who have decided that they want to modem unofficial results to the election office.
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Voting machines are not connected to the Internet.
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Those are not connected.
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Voting machines themselves are not connected to the Internet.
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And we knew that wasn't true.
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And cybersecurity expert Kevin Scoglin wanted to prove it. So he and nine other independent security consultants created their own search engine looking for election systems online.
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We found over 35 had been left online, and we're still continuing to find more.
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ES&S insists while there are 14,000 of its modems in use, there are firewalls separating those modems from the public Internet and that the modems are turned on for just seconds. But Scoglin says that's not enough. -
We're seeing Illinois and Michigan.
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Last summer, Scoglin's team found ES&S voting systems online in at least some of the precincts in 11 states, including the battleground states of Florida, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
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If you were able to get inside these systems, could you do more than perhaps mess up the preliminary results? Could you actually get deeper inside the system?
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Absolutely, and that's my biggest concern.
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