Bert 5/8/2026 11:20:00 No. 84131 [Open] [Reply] Actions Report Translate Thread... Hide Thread Translate... Hide Post >>/84124/ Isn't Kielich as well? Thought his name means the same thing as the loan word in Polish, "kielich". Guess it is "Kelch" in German. And "kalich" in brtekian.